kill the infidel in bible
Deuteronomy 13:6
If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; 7Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; 8Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: 9But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
Deuteronomy 13: 13
Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known; 14Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you; 15Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.
Deuteronomy 17:3
And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 4And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel: 5Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.
2 Chronicles 15:13
That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.
Answering Christianity 
Great information, l just pray that some of our muslim brothers and sisters could see this and learn from it. Admin l wish l could know u pls.
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This is regarding your Facebook group that has me blocked. You go there and see more lies, simple lies these liars post. They have me blocked, delete my words and then insult me and block me so I can’t reply back.. Typical cowards….
I was blocked from this group earlier after one honest Muslim actually knew part of the Quron and posted along the lines of what I spent 12 hours here hoping to see, Al Qasas:55 – “And when they hear idle talk they turn aside from it and say: We shall have our deeds and you shall have your deeds; peace be on you, we do not desire the ignorant.” The administrators must have gotten angry and jealous that a honest and true Muslim made me happy by showing true Islam behaviour, or at least what I expected it to be. 12 HOURS to find one Muslim here that knows and follows the religion. Though disappointed in the people who feed into my trolling and did as I controlled them to do through the same hate they spewed on me. I got lie after lie about how I wasn’t worth the time of people who would not stop writing to me.. If someone is not worth time, an honest way to express that would be to honor your words and not spend hours upon hours communicating with them. It goes to show all but one who interacted me are dishonest and just as bad as the Jew and Christian groups you bash and Judge. Which was the reason I posted here to begin with. The few true Muslims I’ve meant in my life do not engage in hateful argument, They do not engage in hate on other religions and they know about what’s in the Quron. The concern here seems to be heavy on the Holy Bible, but seriously lacks info and knowledge on Islam. I was hoping to learn truths of Islam to pass along to Christians and Republicans that I constantly battle with regarding the rights of American Muslims. The way I was received, treated and what I witnesses had me understand their hate for Muslims instead I’m sure there are more decent Muslims somewhere that I can learn the things I hoped to learn here. But this group is not mature, patient, loving or even friendly. Insults for insults and lies for lies is what this group is all about. I ask and hope that you do not delete my words here as you did some of my others. I do encourage you decent Muslims to find a group ran by administrators that are actually peaceful Muslims as Islam teaches you to be. I think the administration here is very young and inexperienced people that are looking to fight. Our world does not any more so-called Muslims starting a bunch of hate on anyone and everyone. Those type of Muslims have torn this world apart far worse than the other religions have. In fact, this group is the second worst group I have ever encountered. Atheist were first. They blamed every problem of the world on a god they don’t even believe in. But here, I really hope the elders here can help the younger ones. Just looking at Noel Hasan post below is another “waste of time” commit as he spends time on something he says is not worth his time. What’s really and truly a wast of time is liars, which this group is littered with. Post after Post contradict themselves within themselves. I truly hope you learn honesty and how to express yourselves in an honest manor. It’s not really possible for me to explain the damage you do your religious reputation by spreading this hate campaign you have. because you will not listen or acknowledge what you do.
I know ALL religions have hate campaigns which is why I don’t belong to religious groups. Even though I posted that countless times, you still spew out hate about me being a Christian. I following teachings of Jesus, just as you all are told to as well. I will not respond here to ANY commits at all. It has shown and proved to be pointless. Too many here simple lack education and ability to hold a conversation. You lack knowledge of truth so you make it up, like with the medications and name group assigning. But if someone really wants to write me, do so in a private message and I will answer you. other than that, I don’t believe I will get away where with people here regarding the progress I was seeking. ~ peace
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Crapple, as a Muslim, I agree with much of what you’ve stated. Indeed, unfortunately the majority of Muslims are as narrow minded and judgmental as Christians and Jews. The only demarcation between us and the other two are our faiths. That’s being honest!
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ok i read this and don’t take it as a personal attack or anything . I just want some explanation. How is it attacking a certain religion or showing its short coming gonna help make clear how Islam is the right path. Would it not be more helpful if you used this blog to help the Muslim society understand its religion better?
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this is not attacking any religion, only bringing out errors and false information that are in the bible, which could only mean that it was written by MAN, hence it always gets revised. This is a wake up call for the so called (false) followers of Jesus (pbuh). The above information needs to be put out there as there are people who only know 1 or 2 verses from the bible and think it’s from God, who are obviously misguided 🙂
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al salam alkum my brother,
I understand the concept of this piece is to demostrate the short coming of Christinanity But… i presuade you not to get in the habit of doing it.
.. Because it is not our Muslim faith to judge other people, religion or faith.
if this is truley the Christan faith we musnt belittle it
but rather praise Allah(SAW) that we are not associated with it. Also, obvisously Christan dont practice this part of their relgion so shouldnt be scrutinized for it.
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wsalam sister,
Im not juging them sister.Almighty already said the book is currupted so we received quran…
From this post im just trying to show that quran doesnt says go and kill innocent unbeliers,but bible says…
And cant kill humans just becoz they dont believe on him.
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Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. – Sura 2:98
On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. – Sura 2:161
Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil. – 4:76
O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. – 5:54
Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah’s religion reigns supreme – 8:39
Muslims are harsh against the unbelievers, merciful to one another. – 48:25
Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate. – 66:9
Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate. – 66:9
But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. – 4:89
Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil. – 4:76
Also, christians live by the new testament wich make the old one a book of history. The jews does not practice this part of the old testament and shall not be judged upon.
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Read there Facebook page. It is overly obiviously that this group total hate, lies and insults to ALL other religions.
https://www.facebook.com/AnsweringChristanity
check it out.. Exactly as the terrorist description given to them.. Name calling, lying, judging, all in their own words display to thwe world and to the public at large on the Internet.. The very fist they say is hateful and insulting.
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What is Islam stance on alchemy. http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEqS9ZkrCkA&feature=relmfu&feature=relmfu&v=VEqS9ZkrCkA&gl=AU. please I really am interested to know. Kind regards.
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isnt our job to show them the light of the univers!!!isnt our duty to make them understand that ours is the right one and the only one that is acceptable infront of god Allah Talaa
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yeah,Thats what im doing…..
showing truth to world.!
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Dear muslim brothers/sisters,
All those verses above from Deuteronomy & Chronicles are Old Testament books which were written in BC when Christianity was not even originated in the world. All of them are books of Jews & Jews were following that. So Christianity cannot be judged based on these books.
Christianity originated after Jesus in AD and books of New Testament are what Christians following.
Hope this will helps my muslim brothers/sisters !!
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funny, but they are quoting heavily from the Old Testament to prove their case such as proof of Jesus prophecy.
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Why Old testament is not from God ?
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THere is no one innocent in the world. Everyone is sinful we are born that way your premsis is faulty. So you are obiviously wrong in your thoughts, and words. Not one single innocent has been killed only guilty.
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Jason,no one is born with any sin; nothing at all as ‘the original sin’. Everyone is born pure,n u only gather ur sins as u commit them! Why someone decided to PAINT GOD AS A VENGEFUL, VINDICTIVE GOD is beyond me…n hw anybody can accept that HE is, is truly mystifying. GOD is Merciful,n loves to forgive, isn’t that wat the bible says? So hw can HE then turn round n punish us for Adam’s sins, after HE had already punished them(Adam n Eve) for their sins? Pls, think, n help urself!
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I THINK ITS HIGH TIME TO FIND THE QUALITIES OF WHO CAN TAKE YOU INTO PARADISE. DONT JUST FOLLOW BUT YOU ALSO PLAY YOUR PART. NOW BTN JESUS AND MUHAMED WHO HAS DA BEST QUALITIES WHIC CAN LEAD INTO PARADISE?
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The verses that you’ve qouted comes from the old testament and Yes they WERE practiced under the ceremonial law( law ofi Moses or ordinances) approximately 2000 years ago.
These requirements were applicable before the crucifixion of Jesus Christ and is not practiced by Christians post(after) crucifixion.
Christians do not practice these killings or ordinances as the ceremonial law came to fulfillment with the blood of Christ and was nailed to the cross ( Col 2:14-1Judges 21:10-24 6).
Christianity advocates love and peace towards fellow human beings and even our enemies. This was already in practice some 600 years before the advent of islam, hence we dont stone or kill sinners. Instead we pray for them.
Rom 12:20 ” If your enemy is hungry feed him, if he is thirsty give him something to drink”
1 Chor 4:12-13 ” When we are cursed, we bless, when we are persecuted we endure, when we are slandered we answer kindly”
1 Peter 3:9 ” Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult but with blessings…”
Luke 6:27-28 ” Love your enemies and do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you”
Do you know of any Christians who practices the aforementioned today?
The answer is NO, there is no biblical justification for that.
Your bold statement, in red, at the end of your article is somewhat hypocritical. The fact that we are UNBELIEVERS we are already deemed to be the enemy of islam and should be killed. There is no such thing in islam as an innocent unbeliever.
And yes, the quran sanctions the killing of infidels and we are not deemed innocent at all.
Q8:39 instructs the ummah to kill all unbelievers until they submit to islam.
Q4:104 requires to you seek out your enemies relentlessly
Q9:73 instructs the ummah to make war on the unbelievers.
These prescriptions of killing under islam is considered universal and for all time and was not just applicable to Muhammed. According to the tafsir of ibn Kathir and ibn Abbas this is applicable to the ummah even today.
I have omitted the tons of instructions to kill infidels from the hadiths to save time and not make my reply to long.
Here’s my challenge to you, can you give me at least four ayats from the quran where the ummah must feed his enemy and give him drinks when he is thirsty,where you are required to pray for your enemies, where you are required to give them blessings when they curse you.
Blessings in the name of our Lord and saviour JESUS
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WOW YOU ARE SUCH A HYPOCRITE!! That was so transparently cunning. You turned this back into a Muslim vs Christian debate, how disgusting and you call yourself a Christian???. I could do the exact same thing you did and say :
“blah blah blah, excuse excuse excuse but Islam advocates love and peace towards fellow human beings and even our enemies.
[Quran 2:190] – “Fight only those who fight you, but do not transgress limits, for Allah does not love transgressors”
[2:193] You may also fight them to eliminate oppression, and to worship GOD freely. If they refrain, you shall not aggress; aggression is permitted only against the aggressors.
[Quran 5:2] “Do not let your hatred of a people incite you to aggression.”
[Quran 4:29] “You shalt not kill yourselves [or one another]”
[Quran 4:30] “Anyone who commits these transgressions, oppression, injustice, maliciously and deliberately, will be condemned to Hell”
[Quran: 2:256] – Let there be no compulsion in religion.
Here’s my challenge to you, can you give me at least four ayats from your Bible that speak as kindly about Jews and Christians as the following verses from the Quran ?…
[Quran 3:84] -We believe in GOD, and in what was sent to us, and in what was sent to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and given to Moses, Jesus, We make no distinction between any of them and we submit.
[Quran 5:69] -Those who believe (in the Qur’an) and those who are Jews and Christians, shall have their reward with their Lord.
[Quran: 2:256] -Let there be no compulsion in religion
[Quran 109:6] -For you is your religion, for me is my religion.
[Quran 3:3] – “He has verily revealed to you this Book, in truth and confirmation of the Books revealed before in the Torah and the Gospel.”
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@Marcus.
Since when is it hypocritical to have a
debate between muslims and
christians. It seems to me that you
do not understand the definition of
hypocritical.
Anyway, I do call myself a christian
and proudly so but not according to
your standard.
My article gives facts and not
excuses as you would believe.
You so transparently and cunningly
state that islam advocates peace
towards fellow HUMAN BEINGS
and even islam’s enemies.
Surahs 2:190, 2:193, 5:2, 4:29-30,
2:256, 5:69, 109:6 are all abrogated
verses and is in stark contrast to
surah 3:85 – If anyone desires a
religion other than islam, never will it
be accepted of him…
Surah 48:13- And if any believe not
in God and his apostle, we have
prepared a blazing fire.
Surah 5:51- Believers take not
christians and jews as your friends..
Quran (8:12) – “I will cast terror
into the hearts of those who
disbelieve. Therefore strike off
their heads and strike off every
fingertip of them”
According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/
Hisham 324) Muhammad explains
that “Allah must have no rivals.”
Quran (9:29) – “Fight those who
believe not in Allah nor the Last Day,
nor hold that forbidden which hath
been forbidden by Allah and His
Messenger, nor acknowledge the
religion of Truth, (even if they are)
of the People of the Book, until they
pay the Jizya with willing submission,
and feel themselves subdued.”
Quran (9:73) – “O Prophet! strive
hard against the unbelievers and the
hypocrites and be unyielding to them;
and their abode is hell, and evil is the
destination.”
Quran (9:123) – “O you who believe!
fight those of the unbelievers who
are near to you and let them find in
you hardness.”
Quran (48:29) – “Muhammad is the
messenger of Allah. And those with
him are hard (ruthless) against the
disbelievers and merciful among
themselves”
Quran (66:9) – “O Prophet! Strive
against the disbelievers and the
hypocrites, and be stern with them.
Hell will be their home, a hapless
journey’s end.”
Bukhari (52:177) – Allah’s Apostle
said, “The Hour will not be
established until you fight with the
Jews, and the stone behind which a
Jew will be hiding will say. “O
Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind
me, so kill him.”
Bukhari (52:256) – The Prophet…
was asked whether it was
permissible to attack the pagan
warriors at night with the probability
of exposing their women and
children to danger. The Prophet
replied, “They (i.e. women and
children) are from them (i.e. pagans)
.”
Bukhari (52:220) – Allah’s Apostle
said… ‘I have been made victorious
with terror’
Bukhari (8:387) – Allah’s Apostle
said, “I have been ordered to fight
the people till they say: ‘None has
the right to be worshipped but
Allah’. And if they say so, pray like
our prayers, face our Qibla and
slaughter as we slaughter, then their
blood and property will be sacred to
us and we will not interfere with
them except legally.”
Muslim (1:30) – “The Messenger of
Allah said: I have been commanded
to fight against people so long as
they do not declare that there is no
god but Allah.”
Tabari 9:69 “Killing Unbelievers is a
small matter to us”
Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 992: – “Fight
everyone in the way of Allah and kill
those who disbelieve in Allah.”
With reference to surahs 3:3 and
3:84 you are a hypocrite. As a muslim
you believe that the bible is corrupt
thus you cannot accept these surahs
as true. Unless of course allah couldnt
protect his “previous” revelations.
How about I extend your challenge
to mankind rather than only jews and
christians: Your challenge to produce
verses follows;
Matthew 5:44- But I say unto you,
Love your enemies, bless them that
curse you, do good to them that hate
you, and pray for them which
despitefully use
you, and persecute you;
Rom 12:18 – If it is possible, as far
as it depends on you, live in peace
with EVERYONE.
Rom 12:20 – If your enemy is hungry
feed him; if he is thirsty give him
something to drink.
1 Chor 4:12-13 – When we are
cursed, we bless, when we are
persecuted we endure it,when we
are slandered we answer kindly
1 Peter 3:9 – Do not repay evil with
evil or insult with insult, but with
blessing…
In Christ, for Christ, by Christ
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@Marcus.
Since when is it hypocritical to have a
debate between muslims and
christians. It seems to me that you
do not understand the definition of
hypocritical.
Anyway, I do call myself a christian
and proudly so but not according to
your standard.
My article gives facts and not
excuses as you would believe.
You so transparently and cunningly
state that islam advocates peace
towards fellow HUMAN BEINGS
and even islam’s enemies.
Surahs 2:190, 2:193, 5:2, 4:29-30,
2:256, 5:69, 109:6 are all abrogated
verses and is in stark contrast to
surah 3:85 – If anyone desires a
religion other than islam, never will it
be accepted of him…
Surah 48:13- And if any believe not
in God and his apostle, we have
prepared a blazing fire.
Surah 5:51- Believers take not
christians and jews as your friends..
Quran (8:12) – “I will cast terror
into the hearts of those who
disbelieve. Therefore strike off
their heads and strike off every
fingertip of them”
According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/
Hisham 324) Muhammad explains
that “Allah must have no rivals.”
Quran (9:29) – “Fight those who
believe not in Allah nor the Last Day,
nor hold that forbidden which hath
been forbidden by Allah and His
Messenger, nor acknowledge the
religion of Truth, (even if they are)
of the People of the Book, until they
pay the Jizya with willing submission,
and feel themselves subdued.”
Quran (9:73) – “O Prophet! strive
hard against the unbelievers and the
hypocrites and be unyielding to them;
and their abode is hell, and evil is the
destination.”
Quran (9:123) – “O you who believe!
fight those of the unbelievers who
are near to you and let them find in
you hardness.”
Quran (48:29) – “Muhammad is the
messenger of Allah. And those with
him are hard (ruthless) against the
disbelievers and merciful among
themselves”
Quran (66:9) – “O Prophet! Strive
against the disbelievers and the
hypocrites, and be stern with them.
Hell will be their home, a hapless
journey’s end.”
Bukhari (52:177) – Allah’s Apostle
said, “The Hour will not be
established until you fight with the
Jews, and the stone behind which a
Jew will be hiding will say. “O
Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind
me, so kill him.”
Bukhari (52:256) – The Prophet…
was asked whether it was
permissible to attack the pagan
warriors at night with the probability
of exposing their women and
children to danger. The Prophet
replied, “They (i.e. women and
children) are from them (i.e. pagans)
.”
Bukhari (52:220) – Allah’s Apostle
said… ‘I have been made victorious
with terror’
Bukhari (8:387) – Allah’s Apostle
said, “I have been ordered to fight
the people till they say: ‘None has
the right to be worshipped but
Allah’. And if they say so, pray like
our prayers, face our Qibla and
slaughter as we slaughter, then their
blood and property will be sacred to
us and we will not interfere with
them except legally.”
Muslim (1:30) – “The Messenger of
Allah said: I have been commanded
to fight against people so long as
they do not declare that there is no
god but Allah.”
Tabari 9:69 “Killing Unbelievers is a
small matter to us”
Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 992: – “Fight
everyone in the way of Allah and kill
those who disbelieve in Allah.”
With reference to surahs 3:3 and
3:84 you are a hypocrite. As a muslim
you believe that the bible is corrupt
thus you cannot accept these surahs
as true. Unless of course allah could
protect his “previous” revelations.
How about I extend your challenge
to mankind rather than only jews and
christians: Your challenge to produce
verses are as follows;
Matthew 5:44- But I say unto you,
Love your enemies, bless them that
curse you, do good to them that hate
you, and pray for them which
despitefully use
you, and persecute you;
Rom 12:18 – If it is possible, as far
as it depends on you, live in peace
with EVERYONE.
Rom 12:20 – If your enemy is hungry
feed him; if he is thirsty give him
something to drink.
1 Chor 4:12-13 – When we are
cursed, we bless, when we are
persecuted we endure it,when we
are slandered we answer kindly
1 Peter 3:9 – Do not repay evil with
evil or insult with insult, but with
blessing…
In Christ, for Christ, by Christ
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@Marcus.
Since when is it hypocritical to have a debate between muslims and christians. It seems to me that you do not understand the definition of hypocritical.
Anyway, I do call myself a christian and proudly so but not according to your standard.
My article gives facts and not excuses as you would believe.
You so transparently and cunningly state that islam advocates peace towards fellow HUMAN BEINGS and even islam’s enemies.
Surahs 2:190, 2:193, 5:2, 4:29-30, 2:256, 5:69, 109:6 are all abrogated verses and is in stark contrast to surah 3:85 – If anyone desires a religion other than islam, never will it be accepted of him…
Surah 48:13- And if any believe not in God and his apostle, we have prepared a blazing fire.
Surah 5:51- Believers take not christians and jews as your friends..
Quran (8:12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them”
According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad explains that “Allah must have no rivals.”
Quran (9:29) – “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”
Quran (9:73) – “O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination.”
Quran (9:123) – “O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness.”
Quran (48:29) – “Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves”
Quran (66:9) – “O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey’s end.”
Bukhari (52:177) – Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”
Bukhari (52:256) – The Prophet… was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, “They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans).”
Bukhari (52:220) – Allah’s Apostle said… ‘I have been made victorious with terror’
Bukhari (8:387) – Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’. And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally.”
Muslim (1:30) – “The Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah.”
Tabari 9:69 “Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us”
Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 992: – “Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah.”
With reference to surahs 3:3 and 3:84 you are a hypocrite. As a muslim you believe that the bible is corrupt thus you cannot accept these surahs as true. Unless of course allah could protect his “previous” revelations.
How about I extend your challenge to mankind rather than only jews and christians: Your challenge to produce verses are as follows;
Matthew 5:44- But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use
you, and persecute you;
Rom 12:18 – If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live in peace with EVERYONE.
Rom 12:20 – If your enemy is hungry feed him; if he is thirsty give him something to drink.
1 Chor 4:12-13 – When we are cursed, we bless, when we are persecuted we endure it,when we are slandered we answer kindly
1 Peter 3:9 – Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult, but with blessing…
In Christ, for Christ, by Christ
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Ah…the old “we aren’t under the OT” copout. They cherry pick what is acceptable and what isn’t from the OT to justify their lies and hypocrisy. Sorry no one is buying it.
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It’s not a copout. Romans 7:6 But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.
So we are obviously not under the old OT laws and restrictions. Before you start criticizing, study the other side of the issue. We aren’t cherry-picking, and PS. There are liars and hypocrites in every area of human life. Liars and hypocrites in Christianity doesn’t make it any less true.
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Thanks for exposing christianity ( fake corrupt religion ). All CHRISTIAN SATANIC FOLLOWERS DESERVE DEATH!!!!You dirty,inbred, christian satanic f*cks!!!
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just FYI we all worship the same God, we each add our own spin to what he said, but calling it fake and corrupt, is to call the basis of your religon corrupt as well.
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Why do you think that? Could you provide examples or thoughts as to how we all worship the same God?
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Again…obedience to the Lord is to be above all, even family ties. Following other gods was treason to Yahweh, the God of Israel.
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Its important to note that Idolatry is a sin. Not to be confused with false prophets who seek to damn souls to Hell by leading people from God. False prophets will have horrible punishment in Hell.
Will I kill a friend or family member because he or she is a Satanist, Muslim, or Wiccan witch? NO.
Remember God did not intend to have Sin in the world, but gave us free will to learn of good and evil. We chose to partake of the tree of knowledge and there-forth became worthy of Hell.
His law was to keep humanity pure and God centered. In the days spoken of in the Old Testament, God would cause people to die where they stand for building a fire with the wrong wood because they did not follow His directions correctly. God is very strict, but this shows that He truly wants all repentant sinners to be with Him in heaven.
If witchcraft or idolatry got out of hand, only the very steadfast Jews would stay by the word of God. But, they would eventually be killed by idolaters and the human race would be destroyed.
This is exactly what happened in the days of Noah. Sin was all over the Earth.
Fallen angels, seeking the spoils on the Earth, one of which is Satan, had sex with humans on Earth, fathering what we now call Nephilim, or giant half breed humans that are nonredeemable because they are no longer pure human and only humans can inhabit heaven.
These giants were on their way to taking over the world and completely destroying the human race. To save the human race, He flooded all the Earth and destroyed all the defiled beings and saved Noah and his family along with all the 2 of each undefiled animal.
Nowadays, He sent His Son of the virgin Mary so that we may have forgiveness of sins and be saved by grace, not by keeping perfect law. God knew that more angels would fall from grace and attack humans once again, therefore, He gave us prophecy of the AntiChrist, a human possessed by Satan who will claim to be The messiah of all religions and will be a deceiver of many, and will again try to make us nonredeemable, in the name of peace, by having us take the mark of the Beast on our right hand and/or forehead which will enable us to buy, sell, and trade. Jehovah will send the true Christ once more and destroy all those who took the mark and every human soul will face Gods judgement to determine who is to be punished and who is to have eternal life.
The moral of the story is humans before Christ had to keep perfect law for salvation. One of the laws is to not lead others from the one true God/Jehovah/Yahweh.
So as to keep the race on the straight and narrow, God put into law that any man or woman that leads others from Yahweh is to be put to death. Duet. 13:11 verifies what I am saying. Duet.13:14-16 speaks of destroying places that have adopted new gods as idols, so as to prevent more humans being cast to Hell. Its all very militaristic. I am a repentant US soldier and have seen worse orders to be sent down the line, including the killing of innocent people, for the sake of a flag, or just to get off on playing god. Therefore the will of Man is not pure, and falls short of the perfect law of Jehovah.
You must note that Jehovah had saved the Jews from enslavement by many miracles and was proven unto them to be the one true God through Moses. Killing a Hindu, Buddhist, Wiccan, Muslim, or Satanist has never and will never earn you a spot in Heaven as a Jew or Christian. This was a means of keeping the human race in check 2013 years ago and before, so that more humans could inhabit Heaven, which worked for a while before Nephilim took over.
So now we can all be saved by Grace via Jesus Christ, not perfect servant-hood.
Also search the the Muslim and Christian alliance that happened recently with Rick Warren and other emergent church leaders. This is a societal preparation for the coming of The Anti Christ. You and I both know we serve diifferent Gods. Allah and Jehovah respectively. But look what leaders from both our religions are now stating! Very interesting don’t you think?
Does the Quran speak of anything to happen like this? a great deception at and before the end times? My KJV Holy Bible does. I respect your faithfulness to Allah up mostly, BUT, you need Jesus Christ, the one who died and rose again already, so as to not be deceived by the coming “saviour” the Anti Christ, whose spirit is already at full force.
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Hmmm, not an ambitious challenge.
[9:5] And when the forbidden months have passed, kill the idolaters wherever you find them and take them prisoners, and beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they repent and observe Prayer and pay the Zakat, then leave their way free. Surely, Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful.
So, polytheists are simply proscribed to death because of being polytheists: they have to choose between Islam and death. Unlike “People of the Book” that have third option: paying jizya, aka “head tax”.
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“[9:5] And when the forbidden months have passed, kill the idolaters wherever you find them and take them prisoners, and beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they repent and observe Prayer and pay the Zakat, then leave their way free. Surely, Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful.”
[9:6] And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah . Then deliver him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know.
[9:7] How can there be for the polytheists a treaty in the sight of Allah and with His Messenger, except for those with whom you made a treaty at al-Masjid al-Haram? So as long as they are upright toward you, be upright toward them. Indeed, Allah loves the righteous [who fear Him].
“So, polytheists are simply proscribed to death because of being polytheists: they have to choose between Islam and death. Unlike “People of the Book” that have third option: paying jizya, aka “head tax”.”
This is a classic example of a verse being taken out of context. You must have copied this from some Anti-Islam site. As you can see here, the verses that come after the one you posted totally changes the whole story. Verse 9:6 talks about being merciful and offering protection for those who needs it even for unbelievers. Verse 9:7 Simply talks about repaying kindness with kindness.
The bottomline is, Muslims weren’t the aggressors back then when this surah was reveal to the prophet. In fact Muslims were the victim of oppression. The Meccan Idolaters were the aggressors then. The Jews at the same time betrayed and broke their covenant with the Muslims and decided to team up with the Meccan idolaters whose intentions were to kill the prophet and his followers.
To understand the Quran, you need to know the Prophet who delivered it. Read about his life first before reading the Quran. You need to know the historical events that happened back then too to fully understand the meaning of the Quran.
Islamic Terrorists and Islamophobes have one thing in common, their understanding of the Quran and the religion Islam. They are both misguided.
Peace
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Muhammad said in Hadith that he has been ordered to fight the whole world till none has the right to be worshiped but allah. The quran says kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. The quran say they shall cast terror into the heart of unbelievers. The list is endless.
Regarding the verse that Jesus said He did not bring peace but sword. What that verse means is what is happening among Muslims today. When a muslim child accepts Christ he will be beheaded: we have seen several in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia, Iran etc. Islam declares that apostates must be killed and hadith says Muhammad practiced it.
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It really doesn’t matter what is written in either book. All I have to do is look at the actions of Muslims around the world. Last I checked, there are no Christians beheading non believers in the name of Jesus. Last I checked, Muslims are STILL committing murders by stoning and beheadings, NOT Christians. You can quote the Bible or the Quran all day long. I’m looking at actions.
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